Saturday, May 21, 2011

Iran menaced as zionists bluster

Notice how this spy bust in Iran's embassies came at a time when the
zionists are rejecting america's peace deal. Then again people must
realize that the one thing the zionists have in common with the green
movement and those rioting in Libya and Syria is that they are american
subsidized. The real peace solution is for america and their pawns to
butt out permanently. then real solutions can be implemented.
Peter Khan Zendran
Iran claims to break up CIA spy network
Network of "spies" controlled through US embassies in the United Arab
Emirates, Turkey and Malaysia, ministry says.
Last Modified: 21 May 2011 12:14
Iran's mistrust of America is deep; in 2009, Shane Bauer, Josh Fattal
and Sarah Shourd were charged with spying after they said they
accidentally hiked across the border [AFP]

Iran has arrested 30 people it says were engaged in a "complex espionage
and sabotage network" run by the United States, state media reported.

The network of alleged spies was controlled by the Central Intelligence
Agency through US embassies in the United Arab Emirates, Turkey and
Malaysia, according to an intelligence ministry statement posted on the
Mehr news agency's website on Saturday.

"Due to the massive intelligence and counterintelligence work by Iranian
intelligence agents, a complex espionage and sabotage network linked to
America's spy organisation was uncovered and dismantled," the statement

"Elite agents of the intelligence ministry in their confrontation with
the CIA elements were able to arrest 30 America-linked spies through
numerous intelligence and counterintelligence operations."

The statement also said Iran had identified 42 US intelligence officers
in the three named countries.

"They engage in collection of information regarding Iran's nuclear,
aerospace defence and bio-technology fields," among other areas, the
ministry said.

The spy network worked under the cover of labour recruitment agencies,
the statement posted on Mehr's website said.

"The elites, educated and naive people were recruited to get visas,
residency permits, education abroad and employment," it said.

Spying in Iran can carry the death penalty. Washington has had no
diplomatic presence in Iran since the 1979 revolution which deposed the
US-backed shah and was followed by the lengthy occupation of the US

Diplomatic cables published by the WikiLeaks website showed the US
operated information-gathering desks on Iran in neighbouring countries
where diplomats would seek to glean intelligence from travelling

The announcement of the arrests comes two days after Barack Obama, the
US president, made a speech on the Middle East, reiterating Washington's
view that Tehran sponsors terrorism and is seeking nuclear weapons,
charges Iran denies.
Netanyahu: No return to 1967 borders
Israeli leader says Obama's call for future Palestinian state based on
1967 borders would leave country "indefensible".
Last Modified: 21 May 2011 07:58

Barack Obama and Binyamin Netanyahu affirmed their countries' "enduring
friendship" at the White House [Al Jazeera]

Israel is prepared to make "generous" concessions for peace in the
Middle East, but cannot go back to the country's "indefensible" 1967
borders, Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu said after White
House talks with Barack Obama.

Netanyahu's comments came after Obama, the US president, had said the
1967 borders, with mutually agreed land swaps, should form the basis for
a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians, in a major speech on
the Middle East on Thursday.

"A peace based on illusions will crash upon the rocks of Middle Eastern
reality... I think for peace the Palestinians will have to accept some
basic realities," Netanyahu said.

He said that a return to those borders was impossible because the region
had seen "demographic changes".

"While Israel is prepared to make generous compromises for peace, it
cannot go back to the 1967 borders because these borders are

A spokesman for the Palestinian Authority president, Mahmud Abbas,
responded to the statements, calling on Obama to further press Israel to
accept a Palestinian state based on the 1967 borders.

"Netanyahu's position is an official rejection of Mr Obama's initiative,
of international legitimacy and of international law," said Nabil Abu

Hamas rejection

In statements made after their talks, both Obama and Netanyahu rejected
the involvement of Hamas in peace negotiations, following the recent
Palestinian unity deal involving the group and Abbas' Fatah faction.

Netanyahu said that Abbas would have to choose between "peace with
Israel and his pact with Hamas".

He also called Hamas the "Palestinian version of al-Qaeda".

Obama said, "It is very difficult for Israel to negotiate in a serious
way with a party that refuses to acknowledge its right to exist...
[Hamas] is not a partner for a significant, realistic peace process."

But Ghazi Hamad, a Hamas spokesperson, responded telling Al Jazeera:
"Hamas is not a terrorist organisation."

"We've spent 20 years in negotiations. It is enough. It is enough for
the Palestinians... Hamas is fighting for our people, for our homeland,
for our liberation, for our dignity, for our independence."

He also said that while a successful peace process remained to be seen:
"We cannot give Israel the carte blanch that they have to enjoy the
occupation... and to say we have to stop the resistance against the

Right of return

Both Obama and Netanyahu spoke about refugees from the region, with
Obama calling for a right of return for Palestinians, and Netanyahu
largely focusing on Arab countries refusing support for Palestinians.

"Palestinian refugees cannot come to Israel... It's not going to
happen," he said.

Reporting from Shatti Beach refugee camp in Gaza, Al Jazeera's Nicole
Johnston said, "The statement is not surprising or unexpected for
Gazans... A lot of people here have lost hope of returning to what is
now Israel, returning to their homes."

She added, "People are very frustrated by the situation, but they're
also concerned with their more immediate needs", citing unemployment and
difficulty of access of resources.

On Thursday, Obama laid down his clearest markers yet on compromises
Israel should make towards peace in his speech on the 'Arab spring'.

Among his statements were support of a two-state solution, that
Palestinian territories should be demilitarised, and that borders should
be re-drawn as they were before Israel captured the West Bank and other
Palestinian land in 1967.

That position was seen as a message that Obama expected Israel to
eventually make concessions which they have resisted to date.

A senior Palestine Liberation Organisation official, Yasser Abed Rabbo,
said the PLO "favourably welcomes the Obama principles on the 1967

Quartet supports Obama

Before Obama and Netanyahu made statements, the Quartet of Middle East
negotiators - the United States, Russia, the European Union and the
United Nations voiced strong support for Obama's criteria for Middle
Eastern peace.

"The Quartet agrees that moving forward on the basis of territory and
security provides a foundation for Israelis and Palestinians to reach a
final resolution of the conflict through serious and substantive
negotiations and mutual agreement on all core issues," the group said in
a statement.

"The Quartet reiterates its strong appeal to the parties to overcome the
current obstacles and resume direct bilateral negotiations without delay
or preconditions," the Quartet said.
Al Jazeera and agencies

Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Results of the Arab/Muslim riots

The uprisings in the Arab/Muslim World have changed the region for the worse. Many who rioted thought they would be making a better life for themselves, instead they have put into power forces worse than those they rioted against. To make matters worse they have brought foreign military forces into the region as we are seeing in Libya. Let us examine how this effects the balance of power in the region.
As the main group behind these rioters is the Muslim brotherhood, either directly or by proxy, many assume that the objective would be to unite the Muslim World in an all out attack on israel. Were this the case they could have not done this in a worse way. With the military seizure of power in Egypt the Muslim brotherhood has influence in the largest Arab army, and one which could at least take out a significant chunk of the israeli military. After Egypt the rioters stepped up their actions in Libya, Algeria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen, and Bahrain, not a wise move if one were to build an alliance to attack israel in the Arab World. In the case of Yemen and Bahrain it is understandable, with the anglo-american military presence in those two countries, the pro-western attitudes of the rulers, and in the case of Yemen the strategic location. In the case of Jordan the actions are counterproductive, as the Hashemites have been long term allies of the Palestinians and only made peace with israel to free up resources to take care of internal issues, including the very issues the rioters are supposedly rioting against.
With Syria, and Libya these are countries which America has been after for years, and the uprisings provide a convenient pretext for intervention. This has happened in the case of Libya, and Qaddafi has proven surprisingly resilient in leading Libya’s military in protecting the country, and this could happen in Syria. With Saudi Arabia and Algeria full scale riots have yet to destabilize those countries, yet if they were to break out they have the military force to crush them. In the case of Yemen and Bahrain the people have legitimate grievances with their government, yet no clear plan has been made to redress the people’s grievances. So the question remains, what is the purpose for the riots?
As has been stated above the goal is not to attack israel, for if this were the case the current situation in Libya would not have occurred. What we have instead is fodder for american/foreign intervention. One thing people overlook is that many nato countries, like those participating in the attack on Libya, are undergoing major military restructuring, that includes acquiring more modern weapons, and any country in such a situation will soon find some excuse to go to war to use those new weapons. Most interestingly enough many of the same groups that put on the anti-war demos during the bush administration while receiving government funding and support are speaking out in support of the rioters in those muslim countries, helping to paralyze the anti-war movement in america. This is even more strange as these same groups until 2011 had nothing but praise for Qaddafi and Assad. Clearly those who fund them want them to focus their energies elsewhere.
Lest one think that the Arab/Muslim situation is unique and question the motives of the western military/industrial complex consider the following. The first is that the embargo of all goods of Iranian origin from entering america is being enforced more vigorously that the entry of Hispanics illegally through the Mexican border. The second is that after the reported killing of Osama bin Laden the american/nato military expedition has made no plans to leave Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Central Asia. Clearly these acts show that the American/nato forces are not focused on peace, they are focused on conquest, and are behaving in a desperate manner.

Friday, May 13, 2011

Zendran NoRuz trouble from customs

Back in March a 1 Pahlavi Gold coin I ordered as a NoRuz gift was seized by customs as a suspicious item. In April I was informed by homeland security that customs would be holding the coin as the american government has put an embargo on all items of Iranian origin from entering america. I was informed the resaon for this blanket ban is to get Iran to cease it’s nuclear program. Yesterday I recieved the full refund of my order, as the package was insured.
This act by the american government is a clear act of discrimination. They forget that all past sanctions against Iran since 9/11 have failed and the at the “war on terror” is an excuse to go after Iranians and others from Western/Central Asia in the same way the “cold war” was an excuse to go after people of Slavic origin, organized crime busts are used to go after Italians, and drug busts are used to target Black Africans and Latinos.
Below is the e-mail conversations I had with the company I ordered that coin from.

Re: Pahlavi coin order trouble
From:”J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.” [Add]
To:”Peter Khan Zendran”
Date:Tue, 15 Mar 2011 3:07 PM (2 months ago)
Show originalShow full header> When I spoke to one of your employees I was informed that my order which
> was being detained by the us department of homeland security’s customs
> and border agency on the order of agent stan balingit.

Dear Peter:

Confirming that US Customs did seize this item and they are currently
investigating. We are certain the item is not a counterfeit and will let
you know as soon as any details become available.

Thanks for dealing with J&M.

- Gary, Shipping

J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.
Winner of the Consumers Choice Award for ‘best local
jeweller’ in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009

127 E. Broadway, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 1W1
Phone: (604) 876-7181 Fax: (604) 876-1518
Toll-Free Ordering: 1-888-244-9999
Bullion Website at

Re: Pahlavi coin order trouble
From:”J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.” [Add]
To:”Peter Khan Zendran”
Date:Tue, 15 Mar 2011 3:30 PM (2 months ago)
Show originalShow full header> have they done this to other orders as well recently?

Hi Peter:

No. This is a first time for us and we’ve been in the business since 1967.

Thanks for dealing with J&M.

- Gary

J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.
Winner of the Consumers Choice Award for ‘best local
jeweller’ in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009

127 E. Broadway, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 1W1
Phone: (604) 876-7181 Fax: (604) 876-1518
Toll-Free Ordering: 1-888-244-9999
Bullion Website at

Re: Pahlavi coin order trouble
From:”J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.” [Add]
To:”Peter Khan Zendran”
Date:Tue, 26 Apr 2011 4:29 PM (2 weeks 1 day ago)
Show originalShow full headerDear Peter:

Customs has confirmed that they have seized the item based on the
country of origin (Iran). They will be sending us an official letter to
confirm this but that is the end of our involvement in this matter.

You can now either contact US Customs immediately to protest or you can
wait until we receive the letter and we can send you a copy of it. As
Canadians we have no authority in the matter.

Thanks for dealing with J&M.

- Gary

J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.
Winner of the Consumers Choice Award for ‘best local
jeweller’ in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009

127 E. Broadway, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 1W1
Phone: (604) 876-7181 Fax: (604) 876-1518
Toll-Free Ordering: 1-888-244-9999
Bullion Website at

Re: Pahlavi coin order trouble
From:”J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.” [Add]
To:”Peter Khan Zendran”
Date:Thu, 5 May 2011 2:16 PM (6 days 3 hours ago)
Show originalShow full headerPeter:

I checked with our bookkeeper and was informed that a refund cheque has
been prepared and sent to you.

The cheque number is 5689, issued and mailed April 29, 2011.

Thank you.

- Hemant

J&M Coin & Jewellery Ltd.
Winner of the Consumers Choice Award for ‘best local
jeweller’ in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009

127 E. Broadway, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 1W1
Phone: (604) 876-7181 Fax: (604) 876-1518
Toll-Free Ordering: 1-888-244-9999
Bullion Website at

Friday, May 06, 2011

Crashers for british royal wedding crashed

As much as I hate most of the windsors, some of these protesters, namely
those anarchist international provaceturs, brought this on themselves.
If they hadn't gone soft taking government grants to put on pickets, and
ignored hardcore training for clashes with the pigs like was done back
in the 90's and like other groups around the World do, they would have
got results. People in the english speaking World need to get their act
together fast or they will have nobody to blame but themselves for
living in a dystopia.
Peter Z
Royal wedding: Anarchists planning to mar Prince William and Kate
Middleton's happy day
Anarchists are planning to hijack peaceful protests against the royal
wedding to launch violent attacks in central London.
Activists start a fire at Oxford Circus during a Trade Union Congress
(TUC) march in London on March 26, 2011
Activists start a fire at Oxford Circus during a Trade Union Congress
(TUC) march in London on March 26, 2011 Photo: AFP
Patrick Sawer
By Patrick Sawer 9:00PM BST 23 Apr 2011


Police fear a repeat of the chaotic scenes witnessed during the 400,000
strong trade union march against spending cuts last month, when small
groups of masked militants attacked shops and banks in London's busiest
shopping streets.

Individuals linked with UK Uncut – the protest group which carried out
the invasion and occupation of Fortnum & Masons in Piccadilly, during
the TUC march – are planning a headline-grabbing protest against the
marriage of Prince William and Kate Middleton under the slogan "Reclaim
the Royal Wedding".

They want hundreds of disgruntled opponents of the monarchy to mingle
with the crowds outside Westminster Abbey and in Parliament Square.

As the ceremony reaches its climax inside the abbey they plan to unveil
banners and placards and shout anti-royal slogans.

The protesters, who were banned by police from staging an official
protest outside Westminster Abbey, will gather in Trafalgar Square
before joining the throngs heading for the celebrations.
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Once there they plan to regroup and begin their protest.

In a carefully worded message on Facebook, Reclaim the Royal Wedding's
organisers said: "We cannot BE SEEN to condone any individuals or groups
who do protest outside Westminster Abbey because protesting in the
designated area is unlawful.

"Nor can we BE SEEN to condone the use of extremely effective megaphones
(which are disallowed), beautifully painted placards, remarkable banners
or other interesting devices of protest outside the Abbey or elsewhere
on the route.

"Also, we cannot BE SEEN to condone any other actions individuals or
groups might choose to undertake that would disrupt this occasion and
draw attention to other issues – such as the crippling cuts to public

"Evidently, if they did occur, these sorts of actions, interruptions,
disruptions and images would be extremely embarrassing for the
Government and would generate massive worldwide media attention,
especially outside Westminster Abbey.

"It would be a remarkable spectacle!"

In on open invitation the statement adds: "However, if you would like to
meet up before heading off to watch the wedding, we will be casually
meeting at Trafalgar Square - around Nelson's column - between 9.30 and
10.30 am."

John Shepherd, Susan Petal and Ingrid Muller are three of the activists
behind the protest, which they say will attract hundreds of groups and

Mr Shepherd, who studied war and peace studies at Keele University and
political science at University College London is a supporter of the
republican pressure group Republic, as well as UK Uncut.

"The monarchy for centuries has stood as a beacon of the status quo, at
the apex of our society it represents and perpetuates the sheer
inequality and wealth disparity in British society, and this wedding
reinforces that view," he said.

"We are not 'all in this together' and we want to make our voices heard,

However details of the event have been posted by Ms Petal and other
supporters on Facebook pages set up by adherents of the anarchist black
bloc, which revels in the tactics of violent confrontation with police
and was at the forefront of disturbances on the day of the TUC protest,
on March 26.

Writing on one of the largest black bloc Facebook pages Ms Petal said:
"Please support this event and invite your friends!"

Among the 1,500 people who have indicated they will attend the Reclaim
the Royal Wedding protest are trade unionists, left-wing activists and
environmentalists, as well as hundreds of students from colleges and
universities around the country.

But they also include numerous self-proclaimed anarchists and animal
rights militants.

While Scotland Yard is confident it can prevent any outbreaks of
disorder along the route of the procession, it fears anarchists will
cause trouble at other locations.

Targets could include shops with the royal warrant, tourist landmarks
and banks.

Several militants and anarchist groups have been plotting to disrupt the
wedding celebrations.

Some have boasted of preparing to come armed with masonry hammers to
break shop windows, catapults for firing ball-bearings at police horses
and smoke bombs.

One group, called Better Dead Than Wed, published details of the route
the royal couple will take to and from Westminster Abbey on the UK
Indymedia website, with a poster showing hangman's nooses round the
necks of William and Miss Middleton, under the slogan Time to Tie the

The posting included the veiled threat: "I'm sure the activist community
will want to make sure the happy couple remember their special day."

Another group, The Government of the Dead, is to stage a 'zombie wedding
party' in Soho Square, before parading what they claim is a working
guillotine to Westminster where they intend to barrack and jeer the
royal procession.

The group is headed by Professor Chris Knight, a Marxist anthropologist
who was sacked by the University of East London over statements he made
about the use of violence against wealthy bankers.

Queer Resistance, a group of gay, lesbian and transsexual activists, are
planning to stage a flash mob near the route of the wedding in order to
mock the royal couple, in protest against cuts in spending on HIV care
and anti-homophobic bullying work in schools.

Shops and businesses along Oxford St, Regent St and Piccadilly fear they
will again be targeted by masked anarchists who last month smashed
windows, threw paint bombs and attempted to occupy banks and shops such
as Boots, Topshop and Vodafone.

More than 150 businesses were briefed by senior officers last Wednesday
about the security measures Scotland Yard plans to implement. They were
also advised on what security measures they can adopt to protect

Police have banned any protests within the one mile security "footprint
of the wedding" around Buckingham Palace, the Mall, Whitehall,
Westminster Abbey and the Palace of Westminster.

A group of Muslim extremists who planned to burn the union flag outside
the Abbey have already been told they will be barred from gathering, as
will members of the far-right English Defence League who had intended to
hold a counter-demonstration.

Senior officers said that 60 anarchists arrested during the TUC march
have bail conditions that prevent them entering central London over the
wedding period and police spotters will keep a watch for activists who
have committed public order offences at demonstrations and may be
attempting to infiltrate the area.

A police source said: "The same faces often appear at different protests
and we will try and take a pre-emptive strike against them."

Police are receiving daily intelligence reports on plans to disrupt the
wedding from both covert and open sources, such as social networking

But they admit the black bloc tactic of militants turning up in small
groups to form a larger wedge of protesters is difficult for them to

Scotland Yard will have around 5,000 officers on duty, with 1,000 of
them operating as mobile teams to handle disturbances away from the main

Assistant Commissioner Lynne Owens, head of central operations at
Scotland Yard, said: "If anyone comes to London on the day of the royal
wedding intending to commit criminal acts we will act quickly, robustly
and decisively."
29 April 2011 Last updated at 18:42 ET
Royal wedding: Police arrest 55 around security zone

Scotland Yard has hailed the security operation surrounding the royal
wedding as an "amazing success" despite 55 arrests around its security

About half the arrests were for breach of the peace and a man was held
for an alleged sex assault on a girl, aged 14.

Ten people carrying climbing gear and anti-monarchy placards were
arrested near Charing Cross.

Other arrests were for drunk and disorderly, criminal damage, theft and
over a suspected environmental protest.

Three people were held in the Covent Garden area over the alleged
demonstration, police said.

Anti-terror powers were used to arrest one man who was seen taking
suspicious photographs of transport hubs and security personnel in the
Charing Cross area.

Three others were held over drug offences and four for allegedly
carrying an offensive weapon.

Met Police Assistant Commissioner Lynne Owens said the success of the
overall policing operation showed that the force could handle security
for next year's Olympic Games.

She said her 5,000 officers should be "immensely proud" of their role in
the "happy and safe" event.

She admitted to pre-event "nerves" and defended the decision to carry
out a string of pre-event raids as "entirely justified".
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An estimated one million people had gathered along the wedding route.

The police said that number was more than expected.

Officers questioned masked anti-monarchy protesters in Soho Square as a
huge security operation took place around Buckingham Palace, Westminster
Abbey and The Mall.

Thousands of police officers created a "ring of steel" around the
venues. Snipers took to rooftops and undercover officers mingled among
the crowds

More than 90 people were banned from the area and up to 80 VIPs were
granted personal protection.

Over the past few days police have arrested three people believed to be
planning to behead effigies at the wedding.

They were detained by police in Brockley, south-east London, on Thursday

There were also several raids on squats across London, which drew
criticism from one Labour backbencher.

John McDonnell accused police of "disproportionate" action, saying the
raids appeared to be "some form of pre-emptive strike".

Elsewhere, anti-monarchy group Republic held a peaceful "not the royal
wedding" street party in Red Lion Square, Holborn.
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Thursday, May 05, 2011

Some Pakistani military news not being reported

With all the fuss over bin Laden's killing in Pakistan near the Pakistani military academy people forget that this is only the latest in a series of incidents going back years. Below is a more recent example.
Currently there are Pakistani Naval personell on Mayport, FL as the us navy recently sold the ex-USS McInerny FFG-8 to Pakistan as the PNS Alamgir. What the Pakistani Military forgot is thaty the ex-FFG-8 is the second of the Oliver Hazard Perry class, a class notorious for structural and combat peoblems. The infamous USS Stark FFG-31 and USS Samuel B Roberts FFG-58 were of this class and were easily taken out. The australian navy is phasing out those FFG's of that clas it operates after the hmas adelaide was successfully detained by 5 Iranian Fath class Fast Attack Craft in December 2004. Spain is phasing out the 6 OHP FFG's it operates as well, as are Turkey and Taiwan, as Turkey is favoring the Meko design and Taiwan the LaFayette design. Only america, Egypt, and Bahrain continue to operate OHP FFG's.
How the Pakistani navy can make this screwup is beyond me, but it makes one wonder why they did it in the first place to endanger their troops like this.
Peter Khan Zendran
Frigate, Pier Damaged At Drydock

POSTED: Friday, January 21, 2011
UPDATED: 2:46 pm EST January 21, 2011
PNS Alamgir damaged in drydock
The PNS Alamgir and the drydock it was in were damaged while testing the ship's engines Friday morning.
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A Navy guided missile frigate that was sold to the Pakistani navy earlier this year was damaged on Friday morning, along with the pier of a Northside shipyard where the ship is undergoing repairs.

The USS McInerny was transferred in August and renamed the PNS Alamgir. It was at BAE Drydock -- formerly Atlantic Drydock -- in the 8500 block of Heckscher Drive for renovations before it was to steam for Pakistan next week.

The U.S. Coast Guard said the ship's engines were being tested when it lurched forward, slamming into the pier causing heavy damage to the pier and the bow of the ship.

There was no oil or fuel spill, but the hull was crumpled.

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Tuesday, May 03, 2011

More on bin Laden's death not being reported

As some of you may know the media is reporting that the uss carl vinson
cvn-70 was the ship which disposed of Osama bin laden's body.
Recently I checked the website for the vinson and noticed the news
section has been down, along with other sections there
Nor is the crew reporting anything about their involvement in the bin
Laden affair on the ship's facebook page
Clearly the navy is scared here. Even though the us navy is the largest
in the world many of it's ships are not as tough as they are reported to
be, this includes the vinson.
Peter Khan Zendran

USS Carl Vinson: Osama Bin Laden's Burial at Sea

Before Osama bin Laden's body was lowered to its
final resting place at sea, the last spot on earth to
host his remains was reportedly the deck of the
aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson.

When asked about the USS Carl Vinson's role in
burying bin Laden, a military official would not
confirm the ship's involvement. But Pentagon officials
previously told ABC News and other news outlets that
the 30-year-old naval vessel was indeed the ship
responsible for transporting bin Laden's body to its
burial, likely in the Indian Ocean.

In Islam, people are typically buried in the ground,
without a casket, before the next of five daily prayer
periods have taken place. The U.S. government
apparently decided it was risky for bin Laden to have
a known grave, lest it become a shrine to the world's
best-known terrorist.

Officials said that, in accordance with Muslim law, bin
Laden's burial at sea was conducted by a Muslim s
eaman, who recited the prayers and ensured that the
body was washed and wrapped appropriately in cloth.

But this task was hardly the Vinson's only high-
profile assignment. In the three decades since its
launch in 1980, the ship has earned the nickname
"America's favorite aircraft carrier." It has assisted with
key military and humanitarian operations around the

The aircraft carrier, named for Democratic Rep. Carl
Vinson of Georgia (1883-1981), was first
commissioned on March 13, 1982. Vinson served
more than 50 years in the House, and during World
War II he became known as "the father of the two-
ocean navy."

USS Carl Vinson's Motto: 'Strength from the Sea'

After several sea trials, the ship took off from Norfolk,
Va., in 1983, for an eight-month world cruise, with a
crew of nearly 6,000 sailors, the ship's website says.

In the decades since its inaugural cruise, the ship has
continued to tour the world to support key military
campaigns. In the 1990s, it launched air strikes in
support of Operation Desert Fox and Operation

Southern Watch in Iraq. After the September 11
attacks, the USS Carl Vinson moved to the North
Arabian Sea, to launch the first strikes for Operation
Enduring Freedom.

In January 2010, the aircraft carrier was sent to Port-
au-Prince, Haiti, to assist disaster relief operations
after the devastating earthquake.

The ship also goes by the nickname the "Gold Eagle"
-- so called for the eagle prominently featured in its
seal. The eagle, which is meant to be emblematic of
the country, carries a banner displaying the Latin
phrase, "Vis Per Mare," which means "Strength from
the Sea" and is the ship's motto.

The USS Carl Vinson's Facebook page has nearly
28,000 "likes" but includes the warning "Loose Lips
Sink Ships!"

"ANY discussion or speculation of the ship's location
or anticipated inport dates before they're officially
released may result in revocation of access to this
page," the page's description says. "Remember, the
bad guys DO follow our Facebook page too."

Monday, May 02, 2011

Osama bin Laden reported killed in Pakistan

In reading the reports of bin laden's death we must ask ourselves the
real questions. That is
1. What has been done to confirm this is really bin Laden and not some
double like Saddam Hussein was in 2003.
2. Why did this occur now, at this location which has been of interest
since 2005? Notice this occured when there is a changeup in the
government involving thye defense dpt and cia leadership.
3. Will american/nato forces pull out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq,
Central Asia, the Caucasus and the Gulf, as the whole purpose of the
american military presence initally was to get bin Laden?
4. Will the police state apparatus in america be dismantled? For the
past decade the "war on terror" has been used to target Muslims, Arabs,
Afghans, Iranians, Turanians, and the people of that region the same way
the cold war was used to target Russians, leftists, and people of Slavic
Peter Khan Zendran

Osama bin Laden killed in Pakistan

US president confirms al-Qaeda leader's death, saying he has been killed
in firefight following US raid in Abbottabad.
Last Modified: 02 May 2011 09:21
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Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, is dead.

US president Barack Obama said bin Laden, the most-wanted fugitive on
the US list, had been killed on Sunday in a US operation in the
Pakistani city of Abbottabad, about 61km north of Islamabad.

"Tonight, I can report to the people of the United States and the world,
the United States had carried an operation that has killed Osama bin
Laden, a terrorist responsible for killing thousands of innocent
people," Obama said in a statement.

"Today, at my direction, the United States carried out that operation...
they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

"The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date
against al-Qaeda.

"We must also reaffirm that United states is not and will never be at
war against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader, in fact, he
slaughtered many Muslims," Obama said.

Four people, including one of bin Laden's sons, were also killed in the

According to New York Times, bin Laden's body was taken to Afghanistan
and later buried at sea.

Hours after Obama made the announcement, a top al-Qaeda ideologue
promised revenge for bin Laden's death. The commentator, going by the
online name Assad al-Jihad2 posted on websites a long eulogy for the
al-Qaeda leader and promised to "avenge the killing of the Sheik of

The Pakistani Taliban also threatened attacks against government
leaders, including President Asif Ali Zardari, the Pakistan army and the
United States.

"Now Pakistani rulers, President Zardari and the army will be our first
targets. America will be our second target," Ehsanullah Ehsan, a
spokesman for Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Taliban Movement of
Pakistan, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

US celebrations

Barack Obama called bin Laden's death the 'most significant achievement'
against al-Qaeda [EPA]
But as the news of bin Laden's death spread, crowds gathered outside the
White House in Washington DC to celebrate.

Former US president George Bush called his death a "momentous

"The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an
unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be
done," Bush said in a statement.

According to Al Jazeeera's Rosalind Jordan in Washington, the operation
had been in the making for the last nine or 10 months.

"The fact that it happened inside Pakistan, there have been suggestions
that Pakistani intelligence may have been protecting them," she said.

Patty Culhane, another Al Jazeera correspondent, said the US authorities
got intelligence last September and were able to track bin Laden down
through his couriers. They followed them to his compound which was
reported to be worth over a million dollars.

Reporting from Pakistan, Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder said the development
had caught a lot of people by surprise .

"He was considered by many as a hero, but not to the extent that people
would come out on the streets. The reaction so far not likely to be
strong on the streets, perhaps a protest here or there by the religious
parties," he said.

'Symbolic victory'

Qais Azimy, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Kabul, said Afghan officials
described bin Laden's killing as a "symbolic victory", since he was no
longer directly connected to the group's field operations.

"This organisation (Al Qaeda) is more than Bin Laden, it may be
symbolised by Bin Laden, but it definitely is more than Bin Laden"

Mark Kimmit, US military analyst

Mark Kimmit, a US military analyst, said bin Laden's death "was not the
end of terrorism, but an end of a chapter."

"Capturing or killing bin Laden has more iconic value. It will have
symbolic value, because it has been a number of years since bin Laden
has exercised day to day control over operations. We still have an
al-Qaeda threat out there and that will be there for a number of years.

"This organisation (al-Qaeda) is more than bin Laden, it may be
symbolised by bin Laden, but it definitely is more than bin Laden," he

It is, however, a major accomplishment for Obama and his national
security team. Obama's predecessor, George Bush, had repeatedly vowed to
bring to justice the mastermind of the September 11, 2001, attacks on
New York and Washington, but never did before leaving office in early

He had been the subject of a search since he eluded US soldiers and
Afghan militia forces in a large-scale assault on the Tora Bora
mountains in 2001. The trail quickly went cold after he disappeared and
many intelligence officials believed he had been hiding in Pakistan.

While in hiding, bin Laden had taunted the West and advocated his views
in videotapes spirited from his hideaway.

Besides September 11, Washington has also linked bin Laden to a string
of attacks - including the 1998 bombings of American embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania and the 2000 bombing of the warship USS Cole in Yemen.

Source: Al Jazeera and agencies